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ksu1101
27 Ara 2016

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There is also the risk that you will learn things that you couldn't have imagined that you would learn or that you couldn't have imagined that you would have wanted to learn ne anlama geliyor?

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AxelleS
27 Ara 2016

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What's not clear for you, exactly?

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ksu1101
27 Ara 2016

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I don't know clearly what "couldn't have" and "would have" mean in this context.
bertiwooster
27 Ara 2016

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You might learn things you never imagined and that you wouldn't like to know about. Sounds like a line from the Matrix.

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ksu1101
28 Ara 2016

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If I use "would want" instead of "would have wanted", is there any difference in meaning?
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bertiwooster
28 Ara 2016

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@ksu1101 "couldn't have" previously were incapable of thinking of; "would have wanted to learn" You could not imagine that you would desire the information you would learn. I agree that it is a difficult passage.

ksu1101
28 Ara 2016

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can I substitute "can't have" for "couldn't have"?
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bertiwooster
28 Ara 2016

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@ksu1101 They mean the same, but couldn't have is stylistically more formal and seems more correct in this passage. The most formal thing to say would be "could not have" I think. Hope that helps!

sequoia
29 Ara 2016

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@ksu1101 "would want" is future tense while "would have wanted" refers to the past

ksu1101
29 Ara 2016

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Is "would" changed from "will" in accordance with the sequence-of-tense rule?
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Deleted user
29 Ara 2016

@ksu1101 "would" is quite hard to explain. It can be the past-tense of 'will', but in most cases, including this one, it's indicating the consequence of a conditional or hypothetical situation. The use of "would have" and the context indicates this.
その文は日本語まで訳してみた。その場合は「would」のことはちゃんと訳せなってしまった。頑張っているでも、不自然 ならすみません；
ことを知るのは想像がつけない、あるいは、ことを知りたいのは想像がつけないのリスクもある。

ksu1101
30 Ara 2016

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@FourItchHorse: Thank you for translating. You mean it is the subjunctive mood?
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rickssg
30 Ara 2016

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@ksu1101 "can't have" is present tense, "couldn't have" is in the past.

ksu1101
1 Oca 2017

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I don't understand what "would" means very well. Could anyone explain it ?
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Deleted user
1 Oca 2017

@ksu1101 Honestly, I've never heard that term before. I've heard that "would" is kind of a conditional, but, to be honest, I can't explain it exactly. Maybe this will help:
http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=would&x=0&amp...

ksu1101
1 Oca 2017

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Thank you, everyone. You've been so helpful!
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